I'm putting this in the Fight Club because this is sure to cause controversy in the field of pharmaceuticals, but this particular product has been around for nearly a century and people need to know about it. So...

Jim Humble's Miracle Mineral Supplement


Most likely, the reason I've not been sick or caught the flu in the last several years is the fact that I 'bathe' in this stuff several times weekly. I've been using it to purify the water in my Jacuzzi. Strange joke on somebody. If I'd've bought a house a few years earlier and installed one, maybe I'd've never gotten Prostrate Cancer in the first place.

Okay, well I moved this to Fight Club for ya... now for the wondering. I've got a couple of friends in college right now studying this sort of thing, I'm gonna pass this info on to them and see what they think!

Ah, the miracle cure. I will be sure to buy a large supply to keep next to my perpetual motion machine.

I actually work in the pharmaceutical industry, and anyone who writes that medical researchers are "not attempting to find "cures" for people instead of making costly drugs that keep people back" is just being silly. The FDA is not out there doing black ops and suppressing miracle cures. Pharmaceutical companies are not working to make people sick. There is no bogeyman.

It also doesn't even cost "millions of dollars" to run a research study. Private individuals do it every day. But you do have to have the proper credentials (ie. be a qualified doctor) and to submit your study to an ethics committee to ensure it is legal, ethical and scientifically based.

But, by all means, chug some swimming pool chlorine...that sounds healthy!

Gee, you sound so smart when you get all snarky - I can almost hear your superior sneer in the words you type. But there is a war going on between the FDA and health. Just Google FDA SUPPRESSION and see what comes up.

Oh, btw, don't ever ask your boss about any of these 'instant cures', especially if you ask in a 'I really want to know' tone of voice. You're likely to find yourself out the door with a big footprint on your butt.

In the meantime, you just go right ahead and keep producing drugs to treat the symptoms of all those people who are sick. If you lie to them with enough sincerity, they'll keep right on buying your drugs - right up to the moment they die. That is, if the side effects of what they take don't kill them first!

Ummmm....no.

Goggling "FDA Suppression" brings up a bunch of crackpot results, just like any other conspiracy theory. (The first result was from an author who claims the FDA is waging a war against God. Nice ).

You can also have some fun with the following consipracy theories in Google:

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Beethoven was a black man
CIA time travel beam weapons
thought screen hats
Chemtrail conspiracy theory
Orbs
Jewish world domination
moon landing hoax
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If you can think of it, someone probably wrote a website about it.



This is just too ridiculous. Really…I could ask my boss that at any time, and he would just laugh and tell me to get back to work.

Believing that the FDA is somehow suppressing medial treatments is a statement of profound ignorance, demonstrating a total lack of knowledge about how the clinical trials process works, about what the FDA can and cannot do, and about how medicine gets to market.

Most "alternative" and "natural" cures fail to get FDA approval for the simple reason that they cannot demonstrate their effectiveness in controlled tests. Often, clinical trials show that these "cures" have no benefit beyond the placebo effect. (The FDA has nothing to do with these trials, by the way....they only come into the picture after the trials have been performed. )

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31190909/

My company has overseen clinical trials for pretty much everything...pomegranate juice, walnuts, etc...there is no suppression going on. You can either prove the medical validity of your product, or not. If yes, then you get a drug license. If no, then you don’t get one.

I would hazard a guess and say that people who are touting an “FDA conspiracy” are people who failed their clinical trials. Rather than admit that their product is bunk, they want to invent some conspiracy that they are being purposefully held back by an evil government.

It is understandable. I had no knowledge of the clinical trials process until I started this job, and I probably would have believed it before. But being on the inside of things, and seeing the real story, that sort of thing just becomes laughable. Much in the same way how my Grandmother felt when hearing about the Moon landing conspiracy, because she helped build the rockets that took the men to the moon.

Re: FDA Suppression - that's what I get for offering advice from a book written 4 years ago. Of course the quacks and dregs have jumped on that bandwagon since then, and that makes the whole topic appear indefensible.

Was watching CSI (or maybe it was Law and Order, who can tell them apart?) and the plot was about some quack doctor who's treatment caused the death of a child with the HIV virus. He was on trial and the cop, Margo or whoever, was trying to get the mother to testify against him before she died of Aids.

While I understand that there is a lot of quack medicine out there, both in the private sector and in some of the FDA approved stuff as well, it irked me that the subject matter was being treated in such a way as to cast a shadow of doubt against EVERYBODY who lays claim to incredible discoveries. Then the commercial came on, and the first thing the announcer sez is, "Everybody knows that high cholesterol causes heart attacks" and goes on to lay claim to the life-saving wonderousness of their patented drug, at the end of which is stated, in low tones and spoken as quickly as possible, the side effects, which, I have noticed in other commercials besides this one, include 'death'.

Now, first off, Cholesterol does not 'cause' heart attacks. If that were so, then no one with low cholesterol would ever have a heart attack. Cholesterol buildup is merely a defensive mechanism designed to strengthen blood vessels going into the heart. And it only occurs in blood vessels close to the heart. If cholesterol was the culprit, it would build up in blood vessels all over your body, not just the blood vessels close to your heart.

Why does cholesterol buildup occur close to the heart, you might ask? (You wouldn't, but normal everyday people who are actually interested in this subject might...) Well, when the heart pumps, this great big (relatively speaking) chamber opens up and Suuuuuucks all the blood out of that big tube that feeds blood into the heart so that it can be pumped out the other side. When that powerful suction occurs, that tube is sucked FLAT! Meaning that all the blood is sucked out of that 8 - 10 inch section close to the heart - much, much faster than the blood further away can replace it. The walls of each side of that blood vessel are smooshed together, then as pressure from further down pushes more blood forward, the blood vessel opens up, and the whole process happens all over again - 70-80 times a minute, every minute of your life.

If that blood vessel becomes weak and splits (like an old rubber hose left out in the sun) it doesn't reopen to allow more blood to flow into the heart. That is called a 'heart attack', and that is why doctors shove a little balloon up into the blood vessel feeding the heart. It's an attempt to keep blood flowing to the heart by doing what the cholesterol was trying to do; hold that blood vessel open.

Cholesterol buildup is the body's attempt to strengthen blood vessels that feed the heart. When cholesterol is removed with some modern miracle drug, the stage is being set for a massive heart attack. Thus the 'in rare cases, death may occur' statement at the end of the drug ad. I think that it likely happens in more than a few 'rare cases'.

Of course, this knowledge doesn't prevent Cholesterol from reaching artery clogging levels and create exactly what the body is trying to prevent. Changing your eating habits so that you consume more vitamins and minerals from fresh and raw fruits and vegetables and ceasing your rabid consumption of foods processed, cooked and boiled to the point where no nutritional value remains can do that.

Some people (including myself) have tried something called 'oral chelation' (I think I misspelled this), which is a method of reducing cholesterol buildup in your blood vessels. Of course, I took a lot of vitamins, including lots of Vitamin C, as cholesterol buildup is the body's response to a deficiency of Vitamin C. After a month, I noticed my blood pressure was lower, and I slept better. Of course, that may have been from the extra vitamins and minerals I was taking, but some effect did occur. How does one actually tell when cholesterol is being removed, anyway? There is a hospital test that can tell you directly whether or not you have cholesterol buildup, but getting my doctor to authorize it has been, so far, unsuccessful. She'd rather prescribe the anti-cholesterol drugs; more money for the Pharmaceuticals that way, plus doctors are often compensated for getting people on pharmaceutical drugs. Nothing like a bit of incentive to get the pill pushers to push pills, eh? Otherwise, if you have high cholesterol but don't have much arterial buildup, how are they going to convince you that you need their drugs?

There is a problem with oral chelation, especially when it is taken by someone who is ill-informed about vitamins and minerals. Some of those people have died because of oral chelation. Why? Because they had a heart attack. With nothing to reinforce the cell walls of the blood vessels near the heart, they collapsed and the person had a massive coronary - the same problem as taking drugs to 'lower' your cholesterol. So if someone is going to do a period of chelation, they should begin by increasing consumption of vitamins and minerals. Especially Vitamin C (several grams daily before and during chelation) and bioflavinoids such as acerola or rose hips, to help strengthen the walls of the blood vessels around the heart. This is from the works of Drs. Mathias Rath and Linus Pauling. Dr. Pauling has received two Nobel Prizes in the medical field, and his name and reputation add a great deal of credence to these findings.

Another time, on an episode of 'Bones', a chiropractor murdered his underage girlfriend with an adjustment tool by pressing it against the side of her neck, thereby inducing a massive heart attack that killed her instantly. I mentioned this episode humorously to my chiropractor, as this 'adjustment' is occasionally performed on me, and I've yet to receive any ill effects. I was surprised that he was somewhat upset about that episode. These shows are portrayed in such a manner that the audience often accepts theses fanciful figments as absolute truth. He considers it a form of brainwashing.

Seems there's a war going on between Chiropractors and the FDA as well. The FDA has already, with the financial backing of the major pharmas, forced a law through congress stating that only a doctor can cure illnesses. What does that do for alternative practices, or even faith healing? Does that make your local Priest a criminal? According to the law, it does. Plus, millions of dollars are being spent right now to buy congressional support to pass a law that would allow the FDA to shut down approximately 50% of the suppliers of vitamins and minerals. This is a major step in bringing alternative medicine under the control of the major pharmaceuticals. Once that happens, you can expect prices to skyrocket. If vitamins become too expensive to buy because they aren't included in your health insurance, then people will turn to drugs in an effort to find relief.

God! What a betrayal! Nutra-Sweet was approved by the FDA with the full knowledge of its carcinogenic side effects, and the person who was the director of the FDA at that time later left to take a high executive position with the very company who developed Nutra-Sweet. Coincidence? What do you think?

Hypocholorous Acid is naturally produced by the human body and is used by the immune system to kill disease pathogens and other things it finds in the blood. There have been articles written about it and it is known in the field of medical science. So why hasn't anyone thought, "Hey, what would happen if I gave a dose of Hypocholorous Acid to a sick person?" But guess what? That won't happen. Why? Because Hypocholorous Acid is so common that the pharmas wouldn't be able to make any money off of it. It's cheap and it occurs everywhere - in cleaners, in industry for sanitation, in water purification plants; it's even used to 'shock' polluted swimming pools. A small bag of it only costs $5! And that'll make hundreds of doses, taken in pill form. And who knows what it might cure?

So even if the FDA succeeds in destroying every form of alternative medicine, thus preventing millions of people who rely on their practices to keep them healthy, there will still be Hypocholorous Acid, which, according to medical sources can kill almost any pathogen. It's simply too common to eradicate its use. Making it illegal will... well, look at how marijuana usage has flourished under current laws. Personally, I don't know if the stuff works as a pain suppressant or not, as I use medical solutions, such as Fentenyl (spelling?) and if my arthritis is really bad, Vicodin and Indomethecyn (I apologize for the spelling, but this is getting long and I'm getting tired). The truth is, I'm too frightened to try these 'recreational' drugs. I've seen friends reduced to incredibly stupid states of mind because of that stuff, and I'm terrified of ever becoming THAT friggin' helpless! So I'll stick to drugs I know the side effects of. Guess that makes me a hypocrite, given my stance on alternative medicine, huh? Maybe, but I'm doing my best to be selective in what I support (Although that was pretty dumb, me getting hi-def TVs and EMF mixed up, and I can only attribute that to my brain not being as sharp as it used to was...)

But what if Hypocholorous Acid COULD kill any pathogen? Would that mean the end of cancer? How about Aids? HIV? There's a ad on TV that starts out, "There's no cure for Herpes, but..." that makes me think that a cure has been suppressed. Since I don't have Herpes, I don't have much interest in researching it, but my wife does occasionally get a cold sore, which is quickly gotten rid of with an application of 'Spirit of Camphor", another unregulated substance that is suddenly almost impossible to find, and that makes me wonder, "Why?" The 'natural' cures are quickly disappearing, and I'm certain that this is a result of 'behind the scenes' activity by the FDA. Anyway, the next time wifey gets a cold sore on her lip, she's gonna get 'spritzed' with Hypoclolorous Acid, just to see what happens. Of course, when used externally, it should be rinsed off within 1-5 minutes, or it will cause a burning sensation. So 'spritz' your sores just before showering, then you'll be more safe from skin irritation.

So you understand very little about the FDA and how medicine is licensed and sold. That’s OK. Most people don’t. I certainly didn’t until I started working in the industry.

First off, let’s clear up a few misconceptions.

1. The FDA actually has very little to do with what drugs can be sold. Sure, they have the ultimate sign-off, but they are almost totally removed from the process of clinical testing and approval of new drugs. This is done on purpose to prevent conflict-of-interest and the ability of companies to pressure the FDA for drug approval.

Clinical testing is overseen by independent ethics review boards (which is what I work for) who are made up of a blend of doctors, ethicists, community activists, scientists, etc…by law each board must have a balance of scientists and non-scientists, and people who can speak for the various viewpoints represented. These boards are the only ones who can approve drugs for sale, or approve any clinical research. They make considerations based on the scientific, regulatory and ethical nature of the drug.

The board themselves are forbidden any contact with the sponsor of the study, and are sequestered in much the same way a jury is. I know from personal experience that they take their job very, very seriously and have only one goal in mind: protecting people from bad medicine and making sure that only safe and effective drugs are available.

They don't care who makes what money off of what drug, they care only that the patient is treated by the best means possible.

2. Pharmaceutical companies actually are only responsible for roughly 40% of the clinical trials going at any given time. Although people like to bandy around the term “Big Pharma” comparatively they aren’t all that big. The remaining 60% of the studies are performed by doctors and professors working in academia, private individuals, foundations, etc…

The studies come in all shapes and sizes, from many of thousands of participants to only about 50 or 60 people. Obviously, in order to get scientifically valid information you need to run your test in an appropriate manner and with an appropriate number of subjects, but other than that there are no limits.

Many of the studies overseen by my company are in fact food studies. Cranberry juice, walnuts, pomegranate juice, etc…the producers of these foods band together to perform studies on the health benefits of their respective products.

(Oh, and most vitamin and herbal supplements and such are also sold by Pharmaceutical companies, via the route of small subsidiary companies. It doesn’t matter if you are shopping from “Bob’s Backyard Herbs” the money eventually goes to GlaxoSmithKline. They like to hide that fact for business purposes, do to the reputation of "Big Pharma" and the need for people to purchase an image, but it is true.)

3. Most “Alternative health” simply doesn’t work. Time and time again claims are put to actual scientific tests and are proven to have little if no effect. Ginko biloba was the most recent. Echinacea was another. The study I linked you to early, a ten-year $2.5 billion series of trials on practices from yoga to distance healing to acupressure to saw palmetto and shark cartilage…they were all tested and shown to have no effect.

The people in charge of the tests, the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, had everything to gain by showing positive results, but the tests all failed anyways.

The FDA doesn’t care one way or the other about the source of a treatment, natural to otherwise. All that matters is “Does it work?” If you can prove your claims, you get a drug license. If you can’t, then you don’t. It is pretty black-and-white. No suppression. In fact, the entire process is plain and transparent just to prevent and back-dealing and corruption.

4. “...forced a law through congress stating that only a doctor can cure illnesses.” Um, yeah, of course. Only police can arrest criminals. Only judges can determine a sentence. Only licensed beauticians can cut hair. Only licensed food workers can cook your French fries at McDonalds.

What is the big deal there? A law like that is totally in the patient’s best interests. This doesn’t mean that people still can’t perform these tasks privately, but they can’t claim to be a professional. My wife cuts my hair, but she can’t open a beauty salon. I can look down on people throwing litter on the streets, but I can’t fine them or put them in jail. I could tell you to drink some orange juice when you aren’t feeling well, but I couldn’t diagnose and treat you for cancer.

Saying things like “Does that make your local Priest a criminal?” is ignorant and beneath you. Just a typical over-statement designed to inspire fear, when we both know it is just stupid.

5. But what if Hypocholorous Acid COULD kill any pathogen? This is the easiest thing of all to answer.

If it COULD kill any pathogen then that could be proven in a clinical trial and it would become widely available and the world would rejoice. Probably the last time something that monumental happened in medicine was the discovery of penicillin. A world-changing event.

At any time Jim Humble could perform a clinical trial on his MMS1 or MMS2 and, if the trial shows that the medicine is effective, he could get a drug license. For him to claim otherwise is simply a lie. But it would have to be a clinical trial that was scientific, regulatory and ethical, and over seen by an independent review board made up of a blend of doctors, ethicists, community activists, scientists, etc…

It is not enough to present anecdotes and hearsay, to make radical claims that then cannot be backed-up with any proven research. Scientific and ethical research. Provable claims. That is all that matters.

The FDA and “Big Pharma” are not out to get anyone. There is no Big Bad Wolf.

What a great fight!

What I have to say is, I think we need to respect and discover more about the power of placebo. It is not yet scientifically understood, but from my own studies (the subject fascinates me) it appears to be involved with the psychological and physiological functions of belief. Take for example "miraculous" cures:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lourdes_Medical_Bureau

Vittorio Micheli is one of the most dramatic cures at Lourdes. Fascinating! How DID the tumor regress and the destroyed bone regrow? Say you don't believe the Virgin Mary cured these folks. (I don't. All supernatural questions aside, the cures are so sparse. Why's she so choosy, anyway? Hundreds of people must go away UNcured every year! Why's the Virgin stingy with her cures, eh? ) How did Micheli heal?

I think that in Micheli and other instances of "miraculous" cures, the belief that the cure would take place -- for whatever reason, including magic vitamins and minerals or divine intervention -- was strong enough to marshal the body's healing capacities beyond their ordinary performance. Once science gets a grip on how belief enables this to happen, which I believe eventually it will do, we'll be able to help a lot more people get well a lot more easily.

I read "crackpots" and so forth from curiosity (and for entertainment, heh heh). An amazing and ridiculous array of stuff and behavior is claimed to cure just about anything. IMO, if these cures did take place, the operative mechanism was a belief strong enough to put the body's natural healing abilities into a higher gear. Bruce Lipton's book the Biology of Belief points in that direction in interesting ways, and talks about some interesting research. http://www.amazon.com/Biology-Belief-Un ... 0975991477

As the proverb has it, "Have faith, if only in a stone, and you will recover."

That said, I also believe in medical science like a good Westerner. When they told me in October that I had a tumor in my spine, I didn't go to a faith healer, I had the damned surgery (and I'm doing great, thanks!). But I also supported the surgical intervention by personally visualizing a successful operation and a quick, thorough recovery. Did it actually help? I think so. Could I prove it either way? Nope. And I don't care.

As for the intentions and so forth of the FDA and Big Pharma, I have no objective evidence, so I decline to throw a punch.

Here's some evidence - in case you're really interested...

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A drugged society is a controlled society.

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